Talk:Wraith

This confused me initially too. To get unmodified stats, go to the overworld page and try to launch a raid (no need to go through with it). The creature selection page then has tooltips showing the unmodified stats.

Brogett

-Yup, or check the stats while it's spawning. That's how I got the base stats for priestesses and succubi, but I don't have a wraith so I'm hoping whoever does can double check what they added. ~Astasia

Unmodified stats taken from overworld map (first edit to a wiki ever, BTW). Pho Kadat 16:58, February 21, 2011 (EST)


 * Accelerated healing isn't really a special power, but rather refers to a large number in the healing rate stat category...but I will defer to those more experienced. --Pho Kadat 17:08, February 23, 2011 (EST)

Talk about Wraith Upkeep
I'm splitting Pho's comment off to a new topic for readability and responses.--Chthon 20:28, August 30, 2011 (EDT)


 * Interestingly, the moonstone upkeep rate follows a pattern like so (starting at level 1): 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6...likely continuing on as 7, 7, 8, 8, 8 and so on. --Pho Kadat 22:20, February 24, 2011 (EST)
 * Your observations on moonstone upkeep would suggest quite simply that upkeep on resources is rounded up, but still follows the 20% of level 1 pattern. Your example would be 2(2), 2.4(3), 2.8(3), 3.2(4), 3.6(4), 4(4), 4.4(5), 4.8(5), 5.2(6), 5.6(6), 6(6). This would mean that Wraiths follow a gemstone upkeep formula of:
 * ROUNDUP( Base + ( Base * (Level - 1))*.2)
 * Perhaps this is the formula used for all resource upkeeps?--Chthon 20:28, August 30, 2011 (EDT)
 * That's a very old and out-dated comment of mine. At the time, I had not yet divined the secrets of +20% per level. Dig deep enough and you'll find plenty of asinine observations I've made in the pursuit of total DO enlightenment. --Pho Kadat 21:47, August 30, 2011 (EDT)
 * Oh, so it does work for all gemstone upkeep? Admittedly I have not played around with enough of these talk pages to catch all of the comments. Since I've got many the same goals as you, do not fear, I likely will make penty of the same kinds of comments you made.--Chthon 22:50, August 30, 2011 (EDT)
 * Yes, that is correct, but let me caution you on one thing. The game currently has inconsistencies between what is shown for each creature on the Creature Tab and what is actually deducted every payday. Because of that error, the wiki also shares these inconsistencies. You will notice that the Upkeep information on the Creatures page differs from that on the Wraith page. The reason for this is where each set of data was taken from. The data on the Creatures page came directly from the XML file while the data on the Wraith page came from direct observation of the Creature Tab. --Pho Kadat 23:43, August 30, 2011 (EDT)
 * In that case, would you mind if I obliterated all such occurances that I come across out of existance? After all, what the creature tab shows is the payday cost for the next level, not the current.--Chthon 12:44, September 1, 2011 (EDT)
 * I don't have a problem with that, though I'd also make sure to add a disclaimer stating that the Creature Tab upkeep display is incorrect. Something along those lines in an attempt to limit confusion. --Pho Kadat 15:49, September 1, 2011 (EDT)